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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster
USA
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 Posted - Jun 02 2004 : 1:57:45 PM
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Yeah... I think I just saw the really old tutorials. Also, the thing I want to learn it for is for graphing calculators, which use z80 processors (don't laugh, and yes, I am a nerd)... I looked at non-bitshift multiplication, it was crazy... It made no sense to me...
PS - Somebody look at the radar around Stillwater... We are getting pounded!!! Gusts up to 80 mph...
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masterbooda
Swordmaster
277 Posts |
Posted - Jun 02 2004 : 4:20:42 PM
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Please keep that storm where you are, even though it is coming my way here in arkansas, I remember spending many a night growing up in OK, sleeping in a storm cellar...and knock on wood, haven't had to do that here yet...
As for the geek thing, aren't we all, I think the word assembly in the dictionary, says also look under geek...
DaBooda out... |
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VBBR
Moderator
Brazil
617 Posts |
Posted - Jun 02 2004 : 4:36:22 PM
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Lol, but isn't it right?
I'm not at the assembly stage myself at the moment (but I'm in the C++ one, so I guess the next will be ASM  ) |
Whatever. Who knows... |
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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - Jun 02 2004 : 7:00:28 PM
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| I kinda skipped C/C++... I know enough to write a simple console I/O program, and maybe a little math, but that's it... It is easy for a programmer to learn the basics of another language, but learning all the tricks and everything can take a long time... |
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cjb0087
Knave
Australia
76 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2004 : 04:26:26 AM
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heh, programming languages arn't that hard (for me anyway)
the only reason i think we all prefer vb is thats its wasy to setup forms in and create a nice UI |
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masterbooda
Swordmaster
277 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2004 : 10:59:45 AM
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The thing I like about vb, is the fact I can dive right into the game code and not worry about the programming language, it is easy and does exactly what I want it to do... sure I sacrifice some speed, but honestly anymore, it isn't enough to matter.... I can make a game in vb that runs 500fps, and make it in c# and it will run 650fps.... that to me isn't that serious, because I am going to target my fps at 60 anyways... with the newer computers, speed isn't an issue anymore, not like the old days, where you had to fight for speed... of course I am partial to vb because basic was the first language I learned... so that might have something to do with it...
DaBooda out...
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VBBR
Moderator
Brazil
617 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2004 : 2:59:12 PM
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| I am here willing to prove to everyone that VB is capable of creating good (and fast) games... And very good software too. So I try to create good/fast games and very good software |
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Lachlan87
Moderator
USA
160 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2004 : 4:21:32 PM
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quote:
with the newer computers, speed isn't an issue anymore, not like the old days, where you had to fight for speed...
I've read books written back when 286'es were common saying the same thing. Oh yeah, they say, ASM won't be used much anymore, since computers are so fast. . . Now we have 3Ghz+ computers and people are still learning and using ASM to get the speed they need(TM).
This time it's for real though, right?
Ok, seriously, I know it's true you don't have to fight so hard to do the same things you used to do. I just like to jump on people who make that particular generalization. |
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masterbooda
Swordmaster
277 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2004 : 4:45:33 PM
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When I have the need to get more speed, then I will do so... and I will learn what I have to... to gain that speed, but at the moment... I don't need to, and I do not see the need to force yourself to master a language, that is really not going to be useful to you... that isn't to say, that one needs to know generally about other languages, but to simply master a language for no other reason than bragging rights, is kind of silly and a waste of time, ... get busy programming what you know... but this of course is just my opinion... if you want to learn assembly... then go for it... but don't do so, just to say hay I'm smarter than that guy... this seems silly to me..
DaBooda out... |
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cjb0087
Knave
Australia
76 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 08:56:05 AM
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im not doing it to say im smarter than anyone else.
the only reason im doing this (and the reason i got into programming in the first place) was because i was curious and wanted to learn more about computers |
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VBBR
Moderator
Brazil
617 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 09:53:36 AM
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I think he wasn't directing that directly to you, but anyway...
About your reasons... I must say, same here! Aren't computers such a fascinating thing?
<--------- See, I just found out what the next rank name is |
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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 12:25:32 PM
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Personally, I need to learn assembly to program graphing calculators, but I also do like learning about computers... Heck I was planning on overclocking my Pentium 133 over the summer, just for fun ...
PS - I like the new rank, when is the next level? 500? |
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masterbooda
Swordmaster
277 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 12:34:32 PM
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That is a good reason to learn assembly, because you want to and you want to learn about how the chip really works, because that is what assembly teaches you...
I had just gotten into arguments on mirc with guys who say that vb has no power and is a language for idiots... this to me is a false statement, because as you all know vb is very capable of doing anything you want and for the being for idiots, this is totally false, because I'm an idiot and have dabbled in all the languages and grasped them easily... and the posts you guys post in here are not the posts of idiots... I will agree that VB is an easier language than most, but to me that is progress, why should a language be cryptic and hard to understand..... I am sorry but I always feel the need to defend Visual Basic, or any Basic.... I am just trying to get more people to accept that vb is a wonderful language...
But of course I am preaching to the choir here.....lol...
DaBooda out...
P.s. I do encourage the learning of assembly and other languages, because it will give you a better understanding of how the machine works.... and this is always a good thing, but do it for that reason, not to prove your smarter than others... that just irks me... there is this underlying need to be superior with some programming guys... its probably a competitive thing, which I never had any of that... |
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masterbooda
Swordmaster
277 Posts |
Posted - Jun 05 2004 : 12:37:11 PM
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Oh and congradulations to SwordMaster VBBR!!!
Cheers!!
DaBooda out... |
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cjb0087
Knave
Australia
76 Posts |
Posted - Jun 10 2004 : 04:23:35 AM
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| heh, wonder whats after swordmaster, 'ive finished a game' possably? (not ment to be offensive) |
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