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ballistik
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 Posted - May 09 2004 : 08:16:06 AM
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Just one more thing... If VB is the secret weapon for W|ind0ws, why doesn't (or didn't) anyone creates something similar for Linux or Mac or whatever?
Actually there is a tool quite similar to VB that is multiplatform. Check out http://www.realbasic.com. I've never really used it, I downloaded the trial version but never took the time to actually learn the IDE, etc. It looks fairly decent though and is getting decent reviews.
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VBBR
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Brazil
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Posted - May 09 2004 : 08:53:33 AM
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| I think I already saw something about it but never really checked though. Thanks for remembering, I will check this out. |
Whatever. Who knows... |
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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster
USA
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Posted - May 09 2004 : 10:18:35 PM
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| Longhorn isn't "that" big a change from XP. They (M$) doesn't plan to change everything around untiol codename: BlackComb is released. |
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator
USA
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Posted - May 09 2004 : 11:09:59 PM
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Macintosh computers have always had a reputation for being needlessly difficult to program for. The fact that they didn't have a "visual" tool at the beginning of the PC revolution left them in the dust.
The business model that most people adopt for programs written for the Linux O/S is doomed to failure. Free software is nice, but unless it leads some people relying on you to buy other software, your software is doomed to failure. There are only a handfull of cases where free software has succeded, and they are very small minority.
I write and sell software to control robotic cameras. There are a few people that compete with me in this market, and in particular there are some people that gather on a Yahoo group and have released their software for free and some of them have even released the source code for their software. They have hacked my software to reverse enginere what I've done to make their software better. The difference is that I charge money for my software, and that helps me to research and develep the software. My competition will always being reverse engineering my software and playing 'catch up' with me. Since they aren't gaining anything from their work, they will eventually either have to start charging for their software or give up. I'm hoping for the latter. I've worked my ass off developing my software, and I have no respect for these people that have reverse engineered my work for their own benefit.
The bottom line is that they fail to grasp that software development is a business, and unless you have a decent business model, you're doomed to failure. That same idea can be applied to the many open source and free projects. Consider Mozilla, one of the more famous. It failed to bring in any money and has resorted to selling CD's and customer support. The software is loaded with bugs, none of the programmers have any incentive to ever fix them. I don't use IE, but I do understand that even though IE is free, you do pay for it by using Windows, so the cost is just hidden.
Unless there is a VB clone on Linux that isn't free and isn't open source, then there will never be anything near as good as what Microsoft can provide. MS can hire decent programmers, and not just hobby progammers, good or not. MS can make their progammers meet deadlines. Open source projects only progress when someone has free time, and most people that work on these projects have jobs that come before the open source project. Money needs to be the incentive to create a decent VB clone on Linux. |
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cjb0087
Knave
Australia
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Posted - May 10 2004 : 01:11:30 AM
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the important thing, is your job FUN?
anyway i think that .Net will either make or break microsoft, im hoping for the latter because i find them as a bunch or arrogant |*ricks, but i dont want them to totally die, just to come back down from mars. and also it must be after halo2 is shipped :D |
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VBBR
Moderator
Brazil
617 Posts |
Posted - May 10 2004 : 10:56:48 AM
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lol for cjb0087...
for Eric... have you written a book? Seriously. You write very well.
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ballistik
Moderator
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Posted - May 10 2004 : 9:33:02 PM
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I agree Eric. I couldn't have said it better myself. Although I was thinking about it... 
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