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ballistik
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72 Posts

Posted - May 07 2004 :  5:06:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just thought I'd let you all know... if anyone is interested in getting VB .Net 2003 for free, visit this link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/atthemovies/

Just watch and rate 5 of the movies and follow the simple instructions and you'll get a free copy (only for U.S. and Canada folks though). I just did this, took about a half an hour to do and I learned some cool stuff too.

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VBBR
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Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - May 07 2004 :  6:10:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I already knew... I saw it both in GDNet and the Revolution3D forums...

Unfortunately (and damn M$) I'm not in US or Canada, so I can't get one!!!

(hey did you post it as news too?)


Whatever. Who knows...
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ballistik
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72 Posts

Posted - May 07 2004 :  6:43:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I didn't post it as news... probably should've posted it there instead.

I guess I'll go throw a post up on the news as well now.

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ballistik
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72 Posts

Posted - May 07 2004 :  6:47:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Done... wonder if it'll get approved.

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Sr. Guapo
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USA
272 Posts

Posted - May 07 2004 :  10:41:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darn... And I just wasted money on the academic version... oh well...
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cbx
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Canada
296 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  03:31:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit cbx's Homepage  Send cbx an ICQ Message  Click to see cbx's MSN Messenger address  Send cbx a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
My vb.net 2003 cd shal arrive in 4-6 weeks! Whoot!

Created by: X
http://www.createdbyx.com/
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marshallh
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  11:27:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit marshallh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yay! Thanks a lot, I would have never kown about this. But now, I'll be getting a copy on 4-6 weeks! w00t!

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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster

USA
272 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  5:42:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What version was it? Pro/Acedemic... What?
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Eric Coleman
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USA
811 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  6:00:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Offer good only while supplies last


They're probably only giving away 10 copies. Everyone else ends up giving them their mailing address, so now they know where you live. Is that a good thing?
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VBBR
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Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  6:13:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess not...

Whatever. Who knows...
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ballistik
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72 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  6:19:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sr. Guapo

What version was it? Pro/Acedemic... What?



It's the Standard version. Good enough for me!

quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman

They're probably only giving away 10 copies. Everyone else ends up giving them their mailing address, so now they know where you live. Is that a good thing?



lol... hmmmm


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VBBR
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Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  6:32:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman

quote:
Offer good only while supplies last


They're probably only giving away 10 copies. Everyone else ends up giving them their mailing address, so now they know where you live. Is that a good thing?


Hey Eric, I just copied your post and posted it (with credits for you) at the Revolution3D forum (see it here), because there is also a topic talking about this there, and I wanted to let it clear to everyone.

If you're not OK with this, please let me know so I remove my post there.

Whatever. Who knows...
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  10:40:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just so you know, I'm sure they have more than 10 copies. It was just an exaggeration to make my statement easier to understand.

Even if they do want to give away VB.NET 2003, that's not really a loss for them because it locks the programmer into developing only for a MS Windows computer. Visual Basic has always been Microsoft's secret weapon. It makes software development extremely easy, as anyone that visits this website will know. Because of that ease of use hobbyists, (again everyone that visits this website,) will create software and make the windows platform more attractive simply because of software abundance.

Since MS is betting everything on .NET, it needs software for its new Longhorn operating system, and what better way to get software made than to give away the very tool that makes programming easy?

If Linux or Macintosh had some software that was as nice as VB, then those operating systems would be extremly popular. Unfortunately, they don't have it.

Anyone that want's to argue about .NET being platform independent needs to learn a bit more about Microsoft. They are registering a very large number of patents in regards to their new operating system. They are averaging 10 patents a day. That's a LOT. This is going to make it illegal and difficult to acheive compatiblity with Microsoft's new OS, do a google about how their file system isn't a file system anymore, its an html database (do I even have to say the word 'slow'). When Longhorn ships, I'm sure it will ship with a new version of the .NET framework as well, either a 1.2 or possibly a 2.0. There isn't even a completed 1.0 .NET framework for linux yet, and unfortunately they can't even keep with with Microsoft's progress.

Resistance is futile.
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Sr. Guapo
Swordmaster

USA
272 Posts

Posted - May 08 2004 :  10:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whoa...
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Almar
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Netherlands
192 Posts

Posted - May 09 2004 :  03:22:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Almar's Homepage  Send Almar an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman

Just so you know, I'm sure they have more than 10 copies. It was just an exaggeration to make my statement easier to understand.

Even if they do want to give away VB.NET 2003, that's not really a loss for them because it locks the programmer into developing only for a MS Windows computer. Visual Basic has always been Microsoft's secret weapon. It makes software development extremely easy, as anyone that visits this website will know. Because of that ease of use hobbyists, (again everyone that visits this website,) will create software and make the windows platform more attractive simply because of software abundance.

Since MS is betting everything on .NET, it needs software for its new Longhorn operating system, and what better way to get software made than to give away the very tool that makes programming easy?

If Linux or Macintosh had some software that was as nice as VB, then those operating systems would be extremly popular. Unfortunately, they don't have it.

Anyone that want's to argue about .NET being platform independent needs to learn a bit more about Microsoft. They are registering a very large number of patents in regards to their new operating system. They are averaging 10 patents a day. That's a LOT. This is going to make it illegal and difficult to acheive compatiblity with Microsoft's new OS, do a google about how their file system isn't a file system anymore, its an html database (do I even have to say the word 'slow'). When Longhorn ships, I'm sure it will ship with a new version of the .NET framework as well, either a 1.2 or possibly a 2.0. There isn't even a completed 1.0 .NET framework for linux yet, and unfortunately they can't even keep with with Microsoft's progress.

Resistance is futile.



I believe the filesystem is based on SQL, which is actually quite fast. But it won't be in Longhorn, since there are still problems with it

But further.. you're right :)
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - May 09 2004 :  06:22:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So the thing is really a war, isn't it? Kinda M$ versus The-Open-Source-Movement... Unfortunately it looks like M$ is really manipulating everyone.

But I think people must be warned at least, before being dragged into the M$ monopoly.

Just one more thing... If VB is the secret weapon for W|ind0ws, why doesn't (or didn't) anyone creates something similar for Linux or Mac or whatever?

We just can't be 100% OK with the fact that M$ wants everyone to use their operating system like it's "W|ind0ws or Nothing". It doesn't seem right.

Whatever. Who knows...
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