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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 01 2004 :  2:18:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it would be a good idea to put a small area on the main page showing the latest topics... Would attract more people and make it easier for us to see if there are any new topis since the last visit.

Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Apr 03 2004 05:58:03 AM

Spodi
Warrior

USA
142 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  1:54:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spodi's Homepage  Send Spodi an AOL message  Click to see Spodi's MSN Messenger address  Send Spodi a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I concure. Maybe replace it with the "VBGamer News" thingy on the top of the screen since noone really uses that I dun be thinking.


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sdw
Warrior

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  3:11:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit sdw's Homepage  Click to see sdw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think something new like an IRC channel would speed things up.
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Spodi
Warrior

USA
142 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  3:22:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spodi's Homepage  Send Spodi an AOL message  Click to see Spodi's MSN Messenger address  Send Spodi a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, look how active the forums are. Think having a live-chat will be too... active? =P

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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  3:34:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spodi

Maybe replace it with the "VBGamer News" thingy on the top of the screen since noone really uses that I dun be thinking.


Yeah... Kinda useless to have a small news list when you have the actual news list on the same page.

Whatever. Who knows...
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Spodi
Warrior

USA
142 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  7:01:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spodi's Homepage  Send Spodi an AOL message  Click to see Spodi's MSN Messenger address  Send Spodi a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Now... lets just hope Eric is feeling up to making the change! :D

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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  7:47:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is the forum slow for you or the website in general?

I did have an IRC daemon running on the server once, but it was for a different website that I host, but I ended up removing it since no one used it.

Also, I added the message board because lots of people would register at the website but would never submit any news. At the time, the only thing registering would do would hide your email address from spam harvesting bots. I figured that since there were so many registered people that I would add a message board so people could communicate with each other. When I added the message board, I deleted all registered users that had not made any news submissions or had not posted any comments on any of the news content. If you look at the members list, the members that were here before the message board don't have a "member since" date since the original member database was extremly simple.

The message board hasn't changed anything. People still register and never post any news or make any posts on the forum. I have no idea why people register for something they never use, not even once.

The VBGamer news on the top of the forum is so you can bookmark the forum and only visit the news page if there is new news content. It would be redundant to post forum information on the forum since the "Active Topics" link will display any new topics for you since you last visited.

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sdw
Warrior

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  8:10:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit sdw's Homepage  Click to see sdw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The IRC daemon would be nice because it's easier to get help and to help others since you're communicating in realtime. But I suppose the IRC activity wouldn't be any greater than the website activity.
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2004 :  8:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are a lot of other forums that people visit for game programming help. As I said in my post, I thought I was doing people a favor by adding a forum, but I guess this forum really isn't needed.
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  05:57:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey that's not what I said. The forum IS needed. Sorry if what I said was offensive. The idea was to make a "new posts" block in the main page of THE SITE, and the "news" block in the main page of THE FORUM as it is already. I NEVER wanted to say that this forum is useless.

I DON'T think the website in general is slow. This website was the most important thing I ever discovered in the WWW. I have to thank you a lot for creating it.

AND the message board.
I will edit the first post so it's a lot more like a suggestion (what was pretended) than an offense (I never wanted that).
I was just trying to improve the site a little...

Oh and I agree in the part that you say, "people register for nothing".
Come to think of it, how many people have done more than 10 posts here?

Eric, cbx, Spodi, Amrazek, Peter,
Me, Excaliber, Almar, sdw, Bryk,
Bonez2044, AT, Orkl, Sharima.

That's all the people that are not newbies. Just 14.
In page 7 to 19 of the members page EVERYONE has 0 posts.
That makes 180 members that posted nothing in this forum.

The total count of the forum is 277 members.

Just look at the main page of the forum:

quote:
87 of 277 Members have made 650 posts


it means 190 inactive members. (Even more than I counted before)

Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Apr 03 2004 06:09:56 AM
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dxgame
Knave

USA
73 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  08:03:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit dxgame's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is an awesome website. The forum is great. I don't know how long it's been around, but give it time. 1-2 years or more before taking a serious look at it. Make sure all the search engines have a stable page they can reference. (Never delete a page that has been indexed in a search engine.) Thanks for a great site!
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  11:29:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Your post wasn't offensive at all. If the forum is slow, then I need to know. I get everything served locally, so everything is fast for me, so if something isn't workly properly I'm almost always the last person to find out.

So I need to know if its just your internet connection or your computer, or if everyone thinks the forum is slow. If its the latter, then there isn't much I can do except change the forum.
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  1:37:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, no... You understood somewhat wrong. I said 'slow' like 'few posts', not 'slow' like 'slow loading'. Sorry I though of saying 'dead' but THAT would be offensive. I wanted just to give an idea of putting on the main page of the site (www.vbgamer.com/index.asp) a little space showing the latest topics of the forum. Like in the GameDev site, where there's a small area on the right. Like you said, 'bookmark the forum and see the news', I use the main site as my home page but I would like to see the latest topics from there, and so don't need to go to the Forum page.

It would be very dynamic, to see the news from the Forum page, and see the latest topics from the Main page.

I'm really sorry if I made you think I'm saying the forum isn't good. The entire site is great, I'm just trying to make it even better.

Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Apr 03 2004 1:38:43 PM
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Spodi
Warrior

USA
142 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  1:59:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spodi's Homepage  Send Spodi an AOL message  Click to see Spodi's MSN Messenger address  Send Spodi a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I love the forum, Eric, and I love you... Okay, maybe not that far. I'm just happy since VBBR said I'm not a newb, whooo! I just think VBgamer needs a bit more publicity. Anndd, maybe if you had another person who could help you verify the news submissions faster since, at least for me, when I finally release a project, I'm all like, "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Must show it to everyone as fast as possible even though it SUCKS!" Then when I see it not show up on the front page right after I submit it, and a day later.... I start to cry. :(

Okay, maybe not that far, but still, I think you get the point. :) I also think there needs to be a bit more publicity... now if there was only some way to send a message to everyone's email on this site, then to everyone in their mailbox, and so on... jk ;)

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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  2:25:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah and then we all will be accused of spamming! =P

BTW, Spodi, you finally got to be a Marine... 24 posts for me until then =(

Whatever. Who knows...
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2004 :  2:27:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh and just one thing more, did you notice that since I started this topic the forum got A LOT more active?
Really curious... (serious)

PS. You know why I wrote this in another post, don't you? =D
(Apart from it being another thing, very different)

(And it has nothing to do with the fact that now it's just 23 to go... =P)

Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Apr 03 2004 2:28:39 PM
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