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Eric Coleman Posted - Dec 28 2004 : 5:02:59 PM
Look at Google's page here.

My idea for a vbgamer version would be to simply list recent google queries that lead people to this website. I got the idea from looking at the server logs and the listing of things that people are searching for. I think it would be an interesting idea to focus on what people want, such as creating tutorials or articles for some of the following things that have appeared in the logs: alphablending.dll, dsetup.dll, isometric tiles, direct3d device, fps counter, suppressunmanagedcodesecurity, vb game engine, drawprimitiveup, createtexturefromresource, and lots more.

Is this a good or bad idea? Even if I created such a page, would anyone here even use it?



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VBBR Posted - Jan 06 2005 : 06:11:39 AM
# Visual Basic Turtorials
# vb.net "quake 3" movement
# could not initialize directx renderer

God knows what a "turtorial" is... LOL

["quake 3" movement] is a good one. Looks like to me the person was thinking about "how to create a quake 3 clone in vb.net because i liked playing it but i dont know how to program". Someone a little more clever would have wrote "WASD movement", I think.

The third is an interesting one. I mean, how come this led here? (also shows the crappiness of DX )
cbx Posted - Jan 05 2005 : 10:59:50 PM
I've been monitoring the page and I am finding it a little surprising people just type "vb" as a search term rather then specifing "vb 5" or "vb 6".
Eric Coleman Posted - Jan 05 2005 : 10:51:17 PM
I do plan on making the zeitgeist either searchable or browseable, such as viewing search phrases on a particular day. Has anyone been monitoring some of the searches that have been going on? So far the search phrases are really interesting.
Eric Coleman Posted - Jan 01 2005 : 6:04:55 PM
Scroll down the page :-) There is a list of the top 10, which is overall, and then it lists all of today's and yesterday's searches. And yes, the data is only 2 days old.
cbx Posted - Jan 01 2005 : 3:13:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman

There still seems to be some bugs in my SQL queries. It's such a simple database, but the SQL queries never seem to return the result that's needed.

What values in the list should I subtract from? As for being current, it displays today's and yesterday's search queries. Or did you have something else in mind?




So the listed items are only from the last 2 days of google referals?

I'm thinking of two Zeitgeist lists one listing the current (last few days) google searches, and one listing the total google searches.
Eric Coleman Posted - Jan 01 2005 : 11:47:17 AM
There still seems to be some bugs in my SQL queries. It's such a simple database, but the SQL queries never seem to return the result that's needed.

What values in the list should I subtract from? As for being current, it displays today's and yesterday's search queries. Or did you have something else in mind?
cbx Posted - Jan 01 2005 : 02:27:06 AM
One thing though. I did a google search for "vbgamer" and sure enough it was registered on the Zeitgeist page. But I think it may be a good idea to automatically subtract from the values from the items in the list every so often so that people can't fool around with it and repeatedly do a google search and skew the results listed on the page.

It would also allow for the listed items to remain current as to what people to what are searching for and had led them to the vbgamer site.
cbx Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 4:42:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman

Only a single day's worth of data, http://www.vbgamer.com/zeitgeist.asp . As I said in the previous post, data isn't collected for some of the static pages still in the google database, however, it's starting to look interesting.



Sweet, that IS a good feature to have! Now when people want to create a tutorial for the vbgamer site thay can simply refer to the Zeitgeist page for insite as to what topic the tutorial should be on.
Eric Coleman Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 3:32:28 PM
Only a single day's worth of data, http://www.vbgamer.com/zeitgeist.asp . As I said in the previous post, data isn't collected for some of the static pages still in the google database, however, it's starting to look interesting.
Eric Coleman Posted - Dec 30 2004 : 01:19:06 AM
This zeitgeist is more difficult than I thought it would be. There are some static html pages that are in google's index, so a lot of people are reaching those pages first. Since they're static (plain html pages) I can't call any asp code from them to check the referer, etc. I added some noindex and nocache meta tags to them to prevent google from indexing and cachining them the next time it updates. It will take a few months before the pages disappear. Untill then the zeitgeist will probably only report a small percent of google traffic and keywords.

Eric Coleman Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 09:06:37 AM
Cbx: Nothing but another page that lists google keywords.

Autoaim: I like looking at their Zeitgeist as well. It's almost as if you get a sense of what motivates people or what they desire.
AutoAim Posted - Dec 28 2004 : 6:59:57 PM
I like to look at Google's Zeitgeist, not sure why but yeah that would be a great idea, it could help in what people are looking for in game programming.
cbx Posted - Dec 28 2004 : 6:59:30 PM
Are you talking a redesign of the vbgamer web site? or just adding a new module to the main page containing a list of things people are searching for that has led them to the vbgamer site (clicking on the link would bring them to the article or game hosted on the vbgamer site)?

I kinda understand what your asking but not entrely. Me/We needs more info...

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