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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Jan 23 2005 :  2:31:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So who uses the RSS feed? I don't, and I only recently relized it wasn't working properly. oops! I think it's fixed now, so if you're using it you should have seen Lachlan's tutorial. And if not, go read it anyways. It's actually purdy good. (sorry for those hate puns )

And has anyone configured the main page differently? I was thinking about adding the newsfeed from gamasutra as an option. I originally had it listed, but you have to have an account at gamasutra to read the articles, so that's why I removed it. Anyone know of any other good news feeds? I personally find the gamedev.net section to be quite usefull. I like that it's much more compact than the website, and that makes it easier to browse and only read what I want.

what's everyone been up to? Or perhaps where is everyone at?

VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Jan 23 2005 :  2:51:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm busier with all kind of things, included but not limited to:
- Play the crap out of NFSU2
- Beta test a wonderful multi-emulator for PalmOS5-powered handhelds (and play... er, testing Chrono Trigger on my Tungsten|E)
- Working on an important paying job (which is kind of delayed due to my extreme laziness)
- Learning C++ and PalmOS programming (and trying to create an optimized image scaler/blitter in the proccess; this one's turning up pretty good but not fast enough; for that I would need to learn ARM ASM... yuck)
- Some issues related to real life (that is, outside computers...)
- Something I probably forgot too

I'm not really playing with VB currently. Why's it that when we learn C/C++ and know how to work with pointers and such, VB looks so weak? It's like some kind of disease, when you learn C++ DEEPLY and start working with it, it looks so much more fun and power (at least in the start).

Altough I still miss the pause-and-edit feature that made VB so great.

edit: er... do we have an RSS feed? :P


Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Jan 23 2005 2:52:42 PM
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cbx
Swordmaster

Canada
296 Posts

Posted - Jan 23 2005 :  7:54:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit cbx's Homepage  Send cbx an ICQ Message  Click to see cbx's MSN Messenger address  Send cbx a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I have been trying to finish off the video submission wizard for my website, and have it working but I am pondering weather or not to keep using DotNetNuke web portal. DNN only supports MS Access and MS SQL but my hosting account only supports Access or MySQL. Right now my site uses MS Access and I have notices that there are times when my site has become inacessable, so I am looking into other alternatives, such as postnuke http://postnuke.createdbyx.com/. I have also been thinking I should just drop DNN (as great as it is) and roll my own asp.net web application for my site.

I have also been working on a simple game called Bubble Up Mario you can download the working alpha version here...
http://www.createdbyx.com/Default.aspx?tabid=80 (You can also choose to download the smaller video clip.)

If anybody downloads the game make a post here telling me if it works on your machine!

I don't use the rss feed but I like the idea of having one, so that I could write a asp.net page to download it and inject it on my site!

Created by: X
http://www.createdbyx.com/

Edited by - cbx on Jan 23 2005 7:56:52 PM
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Jan 24 2005 :  05:04:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've heard postnuke has some serious security problems... have you tried mambo? (see for example http://www.revolution3d.de/mambo/

Whatever. Who knows...

Edited by - VBBR on Jan 24 2005 05:05:28 AM
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cbx
Swordmaster

Canada
296 Posts

Posted - Jan 24 2005 :  06:36:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit cbx's Homepage  Send cbx an ICQ Message  Click to see cbx's MSN Messenger address  Send cbx a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VBBR

I've heard postnuke has some serious security problems... have you tried mambo? (see for example http://www.revolution3d.de/mambo/



Eh,... it kinda looks like I'm moving towards making my own web application for my site. I don't know how to program in PHP so postnuke, phpnuke etc are not high on my list.

Actually I'm both writing my own web app right now, and wating for DotNetNuke 3 to be released. If I can find a free MySQL DataProvider component for DNN3 that would be ideal. But so far I have not seen one.

It's not like I need a lot of stuff on my site. Just a few basic pages for my projects, an image gallery, a place for misc documents. I think making my own web app from scratch will also give me more experience with web programming.


Created by: X
http://www.createdbyx.com/
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Lachlan87
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USA
160 Posts

Posted - Jan 24 2005 :  08:29:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't use the RSS feed either. Maybe I would if I subscribed to other feeds, but VBGamer has the only RSS feeds I'm interested in. It's just as easy for me to visit VBGamer.
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Threshold
Squire

USA
44 Posts

Posted - Jan 24 2005 :  5:59:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RSS feed?

Yes, it's been pretty quiet around here. I'm in college (finally) and loving my Java class (going into Computer Engineering). I've finally come to a good understanding of OOP and I have a new-found respect for it. Unfortunately, I haven't had much time to fool with VB lately. Also, if you haven't found out already, programming professors hate VB. They "don't even consider VB a language."


Life is short. They say "don't waste it, have fun." They're right, don't waste it...but DO redefine "fun."
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cbx
Swordmaster

Canada
296 Posts

Posted - Jan 24 2005 :  6:39:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit cbx's Homepage  Send cbx an ICQ Message  Click to see cbx's MSN Messenger address  Send cbx a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Threshold

Also, if you haven't found out already, programming professors hate VB. They "don't even consider VB a language.




Hence the root of all legitimate vb developer oppression. Dam those professors, there just so smug, all high and mighty with there "my language is better then your language" propaganda. Oh yeah, I'd like to see them make a Notepad clone in 2 minutes or less, and under 100 lines of code to boot. hah! They got nothing on us. I think there just jealous.

Created by: X
http://www.createdbyx.com/
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Jan 25 2005 :  09:17:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
VBBR: C++ might look great on the surface, but if you ever want to do any 'real' programming, such as some sort of application that you sell, then C++ is not so great in my opinion. In a real world situation an application is generally 10% programming and 90% debugging and maintenace. I'll admit that C++ has some great features that are fun 10% of the time, but I'd rather use VB for the other 90%.

And yes, there is an RSS feed. If you have Firefox there should be a "live bookmarks" icon at the bottom, or you can get the url from the RSS icon at the bottom of any page on the site (except for forum pages of course).

CBX: That game works surprisingly, but after I press Escape to exit the program, the game starts again 10 or 15 seconds later. I had to right click on the task bar to close the program and I get a message saying that the program isn't responding. I also can't jump over those bricks and mario moves too fast.

I think creating your own web application/site is a lot more fun than using a pre-made system. We're programmers, right? That's the stuff we like to do!

Lachlan87: I don't really use RSS either. I've tried different readers in the past, but they're always too difficult to use. Personally I've settled on using the RSS features in Thuderbird. I really like the way it organizes data into folders and you can click on news items as though they're emails. Personally I don't like the way Firefox handles live bookmarks. Another reader which I still have installed is called Amphetadesk. It's no longer being maintained, but it came with all kinds of links to RSS feeds, and some of them were actually quite usefull. I don't use it anymore, and currently I'm only subscribed to one RSS feed for news. Of course, you can always use it in other ways, such as embed it into a webpage like CBX suggested, or like how I use the gamedev feed.

Threshold: It's funny, but it was college professors that originally invented BASIC. However, VB is a lot different from the original. And if VB isn't a 'real language', then what is it?
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masterbooda
Swordmaster

277 Posts

Posted - Jan 25 2005 :  11:30:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit masterbooda's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DaBooda has no clue what RSS means, but I will let the pro's handle this internet stuff....I flunked networking class and had to change majors to computer science... oh well do what you love is what I say.

I have been currently working on GOLEM for DBTurbo, which was originally lolo, and I had 97% of it done, but was worried about copywrite issues so I am simply recreating it with my own ideas...same game, different graphics, music, and story...

Also I have been devulging a lot of my time into dabooda console. Most vb veterans, me being one of them, will defend vb to the end. But I have figured something out. Each language has its strong points as well as its weak ones, so why not learn all of them and combine them into one working application. This makes sense to me, there is no sense in limiting yourself, and your program. Hardcore math and memory manipulation, should be left to C and application building for a 32bit system should be left to vb... this just makes sense to me. ASM should be left to only sadists, for the language is torture and truly should be left behind in my opinion, if anything just learn it so you can really see what the processor is doing, it gives you an appreciation for the system and how it works, which can only make someone a better programmer. Of course anything can be done in one language, but to truly optimize it, it should be a colloboration of different languages.

Of course this is the opinion of a delluded peace loving tree hugging hippie budhist liberal.......so to each programmer there own style...

DaBooda out...

DaBooda Team is back: http://dabooda.789mb.com/
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Scorpion_Blood
Warrior

Portugal
118 Posts

Posted - Jan 25 2005 :  2:00:55 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Scorpion_Blood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey masterbooda, how are you? :)

anyway i e-mailed crissufur but it seems the e-mail is out :\ sooo how can i contact him?
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cbx
Swordmaster

Canada
296 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2005 :  03:34:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit cbx's Homepage  Send cbx an ICQ Message  Click to see cbx's MSN Messenger address  Send cbx a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman
<br>CBX: That game works surprisingly, but after I press Escape to exit the program, the game starts again 10 or 15 seconds later. I had to right click on the task bar to close the program and I get a message saying that the program isn't responding. I also can't jump over those bricks and Mario moves too fast.

I think creating your own web application/site is a lot more fun than using a pre-made system. We're programmers, right? That's the stuff we like to do!


Actually the game does not start 10 to 15 secs later, it is supposed to return to the main dialog (containing the play and quit buttons). There is currently a problem in the game where there is a delay between when you press escape to quit and when that dialog is redisplayed. I am currently trying to isolate this problem. (It appears to be a garbage collection issue)

I have updated the game and re-uploaded it to my web site at http://www.createdbyx.com/Default.aspx?tabid=80

Also it seems I neglected to post info on how to work the game.

To run the game you need to specify Game.xml as the game file you want to run. For example...
BubbleUpMario.exe Game.xml  


Keyboard arrows move Mario around.
To see the hit boxes hold left shift and R key. Just press R key to hide hit boxes.
To see Mario's velocity hold left shift and the V key. To hide just press V key.
To see engine info hold left shift and E key. To hide engine info press E key.
Press F4 to take a screen shot.
Press F12 to reset/reload the game.
Press F11 to save engine info to the EngineInfo.txt file.
Press escape to return to the main dialog.

Also things like Mario's acceleration and MAXVelocity etc, can be changed in the *.xml files included in the zip. For example to change Mario's actor properties edit the Mario.xml file save it and press F12 to reload the game files and reset the game, and the game will reload with the changes you made.

Most of the game settings can be changed just by editing the xml files.

My Engine info....
Target FPS: 60
Actual FPS: 43
Average FPS: 43
Tasks: 2
Total Run Time: 1160
Average Run Time: 1334
Total Render Time: 23507 (0.006567036 Sec)
Average Render Time: 24287
Total Frames: 2001
Frequency: 3579545

Frequency refers to the number or intervals per second resolution of the timer.

Created by: X
http://www.createdbyx.com/

Edited by - cbx on Jan 26 2005 07:02:22 AM
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Lachlan87
Moderator

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2005 :  07:00:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GC.Collect is your friend!
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timbo152k
Squire

Canada
25 Posts

Posted - Jan 29 2005 :  4:49:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit timbo152k's Homepage  Send timbo152k an AOL message  Click to see timbo152k's MSN Messenger address  Send timbo152k a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
.. like VBBR I've been slowly waving goodbye to VB (at least in terms of Game-Dev), as I've found a new love-> C++ using SDL/OpenGL. Otherwise, I've been working, school, and learning Japanese ^.^
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hotrodx
Squire

43 Posts

Posted - Jan 30 2005 :  07:15:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's relatively quiet because of the slow transition from VB6 to VB.Net (or in another perspective, COM to .Net Framework). And it's not really any fault of VB.Net-- from what I've read, it's really, reallly good. But I can't make a 1 Meg game only to require users to download the 20+ megs of .Net dependencies.

This is really a BIG problem of mine. I want to move on to the new language, but you have to consider your (potential) audience. There's was a time when I would download a game only to realize I must download some other dependent files-- I was really pissed off. So I can only imagine making a relatively small game, then users would realize that it's only half of the program. You know what happens next.

.Net should be built-in with the next iteration of Windows. I don't care if it would go against the antitrust lawsuit or whatever. If Microsoft does not do it, the .Net initiative is lost.
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Jan 30 2005 :  08:17:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, Windows XP comes with the .NET framework 1.0.

Anyway, they release the next version of Windows with 2.0 and then launch framework 2.1 afterwards, so everyone will have to download again. It can't be helped.

Whatever. Who knows...
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