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Scorpion_Blood
Warrior

Portugal
118 Posts

Posted - Nov 15 2004 :  1:54:42 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Scorpion_Blood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
look.. do u know how hackers are are chaut? like this... u r telling something that u descovered... if i were i hacker and discovered something.. do u think that i was telling my discovery to anyone?

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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Nov 15 2004 :  2:45:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course, because that's the entire point in hacking, proving that you've done it.

Whatever. Who knows...
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sdw
Warrior

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Nov 15 2004 :  2:54:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit sdw's Homepage  Click to see sdw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
well, u know what. First, i came to this site for help in 3d game programing. Now I'm just asking a simple question for anyone who wants in on this action. But as i can see now, all of you guys are "Anti-Hacker" people. I just don't get that. If you don't want in on this action, then don't respond to my freakin post.

It's fine you came for 3D help, and I hope you solved your problem. The point is that people don't want to see posts about hacking on a VB Gaming site. Take it to some security site like Blackcode.

quote:
Now, who in their right mind would want to hack a "hacking game" site!?!?! I mean, what point is there in that. No fame. No discruction of private property. NO FUN!! I don't know why you all got to be losers about this, Hackers aren't all evil! Most just want to prove that it can be done, and will be! Why, w/o hackers, chats like yahoo, MSN, AIM, etc. would not go through a proxy and give out ur IP to n e one that wanted it. Would that be a good idea?! No. If it wasn't for hackers, then we probablly wouldn't have an internet that works as smoothly as it does. Hackers find errors in things, then exploit it. Think about that next time you want to dis a hacker!!!

You're mixing the terms. Hacker is an excelled computer user, normally a programmer like ourselves who might try cracking programs so that they can learn how to protect from it themselves. A cracker is not only a poor white man but also is someone who uses their advanced computer knowledge to engage in illegal activities. Then there are the script kiddies who fall under another category.

Probably 14 years of age, they don't realize that when tampering with remote computer systems that they place themselves in danger. Also a malicious cracker, who they idolize, does not want to be noticed. This seems to be a key point that most script kiddies most likely learn the hard way. At the rate you're going, your "1337 h4xx0ring" will land you in a not so 1337 cell because you just wanted to have a little fun to brighten your life which is otherwise depressingly boring. You tell me who the loser is.

If it's fame you seek, then do something more productive and challenging like creating the best game instead of trying to root a system.

And yes, you did make a good point earlier. Because of script kiddies like yourself exploiting flaws in programs discovered by people far beyond your capabilities, you've prompted programmers like us to fix them; therefore making them more secure.

P.S. What kind of bad-ass hacker needs to use the word "freakin" instead of "fruitcakeing" when they condescendingly call others losers. Maybe rethinking your thoughts before posting them would be a good idea.

EDIT: ^ Haha--nice filter there, Eric ;)

Edited by - sdw on Nov 15 2004 2:57:40 PM
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Nov 15 2004 :  4:00:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try putting an * in the middle.

Whatever. Who knows...
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Scorpion_Blood
Warrior

Portugal
118 Posts

Posted - Nov 15 2004 :  4:32:08 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Scorpion_Blood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well ppl lol do u know something? i will keep work on my game lol
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Hacker9988
script kiddie

23 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  12:18:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Hacker9988's Homepage  Send Hacker9988 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You all are fúcking retarted (lol, just seeing if that would work!!). You think all hackers are the same and are just out to steal other peoples information and work. You have no clue what a real hacker is. I don't need your help any more, but if any of you still want to change your heathen ways, then i still leave my offer to join open. This will in no way get you fame, but it will give you the satisfaction of knowing you were part of the hack of the year!!


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Brykovian
Bryk the Cheese Slayer!

USA
58 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  12:55:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brykovian's Homepage  Click to see Brykovian's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Here's a new challenge for you, Hack ... a different kind of "hack of the year", if you're up for it ... How 'bout you actually figure out that *.obj format that you asked about in your "3D Help" thread?

Wotsit *does* have a pretty comprehensive language-neutral description of the spec (http://www.wotsit.org/download.asp?f=w_obj) ... I would think that any good hacker (or average programmer) would be able to turn that over pretty easily. Probably more constructive than trying to figure out someone else's encryption that they don't really want you to figure out.

And ... as a secondary side challenge, I still have been looking for someone to be able to "solve" my "Brick Crypt" routine ... Almar, Raggy, Gherkin and others (i.e. *good* programmers) helped me out quite a bit during the development phase of that thing ... but, in the end, even the great Raggy threw in the towel. You wanna shot at it?

-Bryk

www.mwgames.com
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VBBR
Moderator

Brazil
617 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  1:09:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who changed his title to "script kiddie"?

...LOL.

(no offence at all, I just found it funny)

Whatever. Who knows...
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Lachlan87
Moderator

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  1:33:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brykovian

I still have been looking for someone to be able to "solve" my "Brick Crypt" routine ...



I never heard of that particular problem. . . It sounds intriguing. Care to give any more details?
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Scorpion_Blood
Warrior

Portugal
118 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  1:59:37 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Scorpion_Blood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VBBR

Who changed his title to "script kiddie"?

...LOL.

(no offence at all, I just found it funny)



who are de admins here? lol
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Brykovian
Bryk the Cheese Slayer!

USA
58 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  1:59:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brykovian's Homepage  Click to see Brykovian's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wrote a DLL for handling packed binary files a couple years ago ... it included an encryption routine. In an attempt to see how easy the thing was to crack, I enlisted a handful of the best and brightest around the VB scene at the time to try their hand. I sent them the encrypted version of a text file that contained a poem. Their challenge was to figure out my encryption routine and return the unencrypted version of the poem.

During the first trials, a couple of the guys came within the "ballpark" of figuring out my method. Rag-on-a-stick was even nice enough to share how he went about his process. One guy who hasn't been around for a while (a Greek physics grad student with a name like "VX"-something and some interesting politics) simply returned my exact algorythm without explaining how he came about it.

Thanks to Raggy's info, I was able to make some adjustments, and sent a second batch of trial files out ... but everyone at the time gave up at that point. I don't actually think the routine would be very difficult to crack for someone really good at that sort of thing, but I think it's far enough along to keep the honest folks honest.

In any case, here's a link to the library: http://www.mwgames.com/BrickCnP.htm

-Bryk

www.mwgames.com
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sdw
Warrior

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  2:54:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit sdw's Homepage  Click to see sdw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
You all are fúcking retarted (lol, just seeing if that would work!!). You think all hackers are the same and are just out to steal other peoples information and work. You have no clue what a real hacker is.

Hehe, it's momments like this that make my day. Somebody calling another stupid while making themselves look foolish in the process. You're the one who described yourself as a criminal wanting to damage data on another person's machine, not us. I think I already gave a decent explanation of what a hacker, cracker, and script kiddie is. Since your posts are not very intelligent, you refer to C as too difficult (and is therefore gay), and want to be publicly acknowledged as a hacker, you have been awarded the title of "script kiddie". Press your luck elsewhere, script kiddie. Although I'm sure your consistent ignorance will earn you more flames. For future help:
quote:
quote:Originally posted by Brykovian

I still have been looking for someone to be able to "solve" my "Brick Crypt" routine ...



I never heard of that particular problem. . . It sounds intriguing. Care to give any more details?

That's more of a hacker reply, not "u r 4ll retarted i r 1337 i kn0w h4xx0ring."
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Eric Coleman
Gladiator

USA
811 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  2:57:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eric Coleman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All your base are belong to us.
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Brykovian
Bryk the Cheese Slayer!

USA
58 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  3:12:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brykovian's Homepage  Click to see Brykovian's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey Eric ... Can I get a cool personalized title like "script kiddie" ... how 'bout "Writes Scripts; Has Kiddies"? ... or something equally ... um, creative?

-Bryk

www.mwgames.com
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sdw
Warrior

USA
160 Posts

Posted - Nov 16 2004 :  3:21:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit sdw's Homepage  Click to see sdw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
"Writes Scripts; Has Kiddies"

*speechless* :D
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