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VBBR Posted - Sep 16 2004 : 7:01:20 PM
Some things I discovered now...

- The articles and tutorials index pages are using the old layout;
- In the main page, "Getting to know your compiler" is listed as the latest article, while it's really the one-to-last tutorial;
- Anyway it seems there is something wrong with the "Articles" panel on the main page, because it doesn't show any more articles (like it does with tutorials).
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Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 17 2004 : 10:42:22 AM
There is now a slightly different layout, some minor formatting changes, and now a printer friendly version. Also, page links are automatically generated for multiple page documents, and headers within the document are also used for navigation (the links and tags are created automatically). Also, the latest comment that someone posts is displayed in the side column.
Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 15 2004 : 9:57:27 PM
The code tag works differently now. Code listings are numbered. The script that colors the code and comments won't work with this numbered listing since the span tags it uses format text on multiple lines. It's something that I'll fix, but right now it's really late and I need to get some sleep.

More comments and suggestions are welcome! Thanks!
Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 10:32:21 AM
Thanks for the feedback! I'll see what I can do to fix those problems.

I had planned on adding an automatic navigation area at the bottom of the tutorial, but I guess I forgot about it, .

I don't think the user ID field allows you to change it. I had planned on it, so that if someone wanted the ID could be changed to someone else and allow that person to take ownership of the tutorial or article.

For external links, don't you mean they should open in new windows?
Sion Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 09:08:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Eric Coleman
<br>The tutorials section, like everything else at VBgamer requires a moderator to approve it before it's visible.

Oh, right! I'm glad that you approved my tutorial :)

quote:
What was inconvenient and what needed more information?

- Sometimes the [url]-tag didn't work unless it was [url=blahblah].
- I think, that a page header and next/previous page-link should be added whenever a new-page-tag is created. It wasn't clear how you should link to other pages in the tutorial/article.
- The [code]-tag is also a bit strange. To have one line of space between text and code both before and after the code box, I had to write it like so:
Line of text.

(code-tag)
Line of code.
(/code-tag)Line of text.

- Same problem with headers - they also automaticly adds a line of space below it.
- When inserting tags using the menu, the tags are inserted at the buttom and not around the selected text.
- It isn't very clear that you have to click the "Insert file"-button to both upload the file and add the file to the tutorial. I first created a link to the url displayed for the file, but that didn't work.
- Is it intentional that it's possible to change your "User ID"?
- External links opens in the same window instead of in a new one. But right now, I also have links to other pages in the tutorial using the [url]-tag, and they should open in the same window.
Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 08:36:14 AM
The tutorials section, like everything else at VBgamer requires a moderator to approve it before it's visible.

quote:
there was a few minor inconviences and some lack of infomation

What was inconvenient and what needed more information?
Sion Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 08:09:02 AM
It dosn't show up on "Latest Tutorials" and there was a few minor inconviences and some lack of infomation when writing the tutorial, but other than that the new tutorial/article system looks great. Kind of like GameDev and Gamasutra's with the page-menu.
Sion Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 07:45:20 AM
Thanks, I'll try and add the tutorial then :)
Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 07:37:05 AM
Ok, it's fixed!
Eric Coleman Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 07:28:37 AM
Thanks for letting me know. I'll fix it right now.
Sion Posted - Oct 11 2004 : 07:24:37 AM
Eric, I was trying to post a new tutorial yesterday, but I kept getting a ASP-error. Something in the nature of "Error line 45, object undefined". Could you please look into what's causing this problem?
cjb0087 Posted - Oct 01 2004 : 6:58:05 PM
haha, this reminds of of IE's support for .png, they promised to have navtive support for it by IE5!
Lachlan87 Posted - Oct 01 2004 : 5:29:34 PM
M$ seems to think it has made the perfect browser. That's my take. Why else would they decide not to release any new versions except with new editions of their OS's?

Unfortunately for Microsoft, those greedy sonuvagunz that make Firefox, Opera, etc. keep proving that there is always more to be had, so Microsoft may have to give up that policy if they want to continue to be seen as a serious contender.

Of course, in my opinion they've already failed. They've demonstrated they have no drive of their own, so they'll always be playing catch up.
VBBR Posted - Oct 01 2004 : 4:13:46 PM
Yeah. Not the one you use to wash, though.

SOAP stands for "Simple Object Access Protocol", it's some universal protocol to store and retrieve all kinds of things trough XML, if I'm not mistaken.

Being a universal and open "whatever", of course M$ doesn't use it in IE. Stupid selfishness. Someone must throw a 100 pounds rock of "insert-something-open-and-universal-here" in M$' head so it sees it's something everyone around is using.
cjb0087 Posted - Oct 01 2004 : 10:48:48 AM
erm, SOAP? (yes im dumb today)
Eric Coleman Posted - Sep 30 2004 : 10:56:45 PM
Well, it would make things so much nicer if everyone used Firefox. Both Mozilla and Firefox have native support SOAP, and I thought that was amazing. I even built some functionality into the new forum software that used it. Unfortunatly I realized that Internet Explorer didn't support SOAP, so that made my attempts at creating a really neat forum quite pointless.

It was really neat. You could read a message by downloading the subjects only, and then click on the subjects that you want to read and the SOAP/javascript would download just the message body and then it would create a child element at the appropriate location in the page to dynamically insert the content.

Also, since simply viewing a JPEG file in Internet Explorer can result in your computer infected with a virus or worm, then switching to Firefox is smart thing to do. Microsoft has also said that it is only going to fix problems with Internet Explorer on Windows XP only. Not everyone that visits VBgamer uses windows XP, so sorry, but there won't be any fix for people like me. I still use windows 2000. This is worth reading, link

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