VBGamer

Thanks for that. I've looked at that before I believe it used both direct3d and directdraw... that or else it didnt use isometric tiles it used regular ones and rotated it. Well talks for all the replys people but I've changed my mind. I'm not going to make a copy of it in vb right now, I'm just going to do it in c++. If i get free time ill do one in vb and make it a open source isometric tile engine. I love programming in vb and I think that would be a nice thing to do. i would help people out prob. thanks anyway people -kyle P.S. what the heck do you people mean by *nt*?