VBGamer

Have to disagree with you here. VB is not really new, been around for alomst a decade. It hasn't caught on in its latest incarnation (VB5 and VB6 which are going on four years in the marketplace) quite simply because it is not powerful enuf. Slice it anyway you want, (read my previous post), both have a place at the current point in time. ESP if you have read anything about the .NET sh!t coming out of M$, both will be interchangable (for lack of a better word). So, dissing one because you think it is esoteric and looks like crap, is, well, childish. Take a good look at ASM. You think that is ugly? I personally love the easy presentation that ASM has over any freaking language out there. You know at any given moment what the hell a variable is by looking at the stack. Now, that is going over the edge, but judging a language on how it looks is not the right way to go about it (IMHO).